I just lost RM 12,000 in Genting

I moaned aloud, a textbook cry of anguish. I even managed some respectable gnashing of teeth.

genting casino bearer chips

I wanted to “earn” (insert Chinese gambling cliché joke) RM 2,000 for reasons of my own. It was a stupid thing to do. I went up with RM 4,500 which I converted into RM 4,000 worth of chips. I played Baccarat in the International Room and lost it all in two rounds.

I used the spare RM 500, random bank notes worth RM 250 and withdrew (!!!) RM 5,000 from my credit card with a 5% service charge.

genting international room withdraw credit card

I lost it all on high stakes Baccarat with RM 4,000 minimum per hand. :x

I then went and withdrew another RM 2,000 from the ATM for a last minute save. This makes the total buy-in exactly RM 12,000.

First near save – RM 11,500

I went to the Roulette table and by some fluke managed to win consistently. I hit the single numbers twice with RM 100 which pays RM 3,500 with 35-1 payout.

I found out that the dealer was consistently getting 1-12 with his spins and the numbers 4 and 8 came out several times over 10 spins. My mistake was just putting RM 1,000 on 1-12 and going for the numbers instead. I should have bet higher to get back my money. :x

It didn’t last long coz the pit boss saw the croupier was spinning the same numbers over and over again and switched dealers.

I switched back to Baccarat and lost it all again – it’s very easy when you bet RM 5,000 per hand.

I should have left with a RM 500 loss. It’s A LOT better than losing RM 12,000. I didn’t. This was the best time since I got back up from a RM 12,000 loss to RM 11,500.

Second near save – RM 61,000 (!!!)

I am still fuming over this. I put RM 1,500 on the number 0 (house number) and the dealer went “No more bets” and took my chips away.

I had other chips on line, even, and other configurations so in total I would have won over 61k. The RM 1,500 bet alone would have netted me RM 52,500 with the 35-1 payout.

This would go considerably well for my condo fund. Unfortunately, I put the number 0 last and the bet was not accepted. :(

Third near save – RM 8,500

This is actually more like RM 13,500. I would have nearly achieved my goal of a RM 2,000 win and I would have instantly run off after getting back my RM 12,000 with a RM 1,500 win.

There was a Player dragon going and from just RM 600 I got it up to RM 13,500. However, I die die wanted a RM 14,000 win (RM 2,000 profit) so I slapped down RM 5,000 at the end of the 12 consecutive Player wins in the Baccarat table.

I lost it coz it went to Banker during the 13th deal.

It all went downhill from there. I lost everything except RM 50 I earmarked for the bus home. My dinner is a RM 1.90 bread roll.

Silver lining

I don’t actually spend a lot of money but I’m pretty much flat out broke right now. I know I’ve said this before and I don’t need to convince anyone but I’m not going to gamble again. I managed to quit methamphetamine and other drugs after several relapses so I know what I’m like.

I’m not going to step foot into a casino again. I’m just bummed I disappointed one of my closest friends. Sorry Xinxian.

I could get back the RM 12,000 by doing stuff that’s not very legal (technically downright illegal) but I’m not going to. It’s about consequences. Everything you do has consequences and you must be prepared to face them.

There’s no such thing as a free lunch, which surprisingly a lot of people don’t understand. I’ve met a lot of people who has an “I WANT” mentality but is not ready to accept the consequences for it.

I have accepted all the consequences of my actions, and I think I know what’s fundamentally wrong with me – I have a “dead man walking” mentality. I’m going to fix that.

On the plus side, now that I don’t have any money so that would force a lot of circumstances and personal prophecies to be fulfilled so that’s one good thing that came out of it.

I would be a healthier person (not diet wise, I’ll be eating bread and instant noodles for a long time) after I weather this fortune reversal.

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82 thoughts on “I just lost RM 12,000 in Genting

  1. earning from such fast way really requires tonnes of luck :) just do it for fun , instead of getting serious into really ‘earning’ money there..

    • Yeah, it requires a lot of luck! :)

      I actually recovered TWICE which is pretty amazing (one due to hitting Roulette numbers which pays 35-1 and the other due to Baccarat consecutive dragons where I doubled up).

      I don’t think it’s very feasible to “earn” money, I was kidding on that bit.

      I wasn’t kidding about wanting to get RM 2,000 though, but now I’ve learned that every time I go with a hard target like that, I’ll never leave despite breaking even after a huge 5 figure loss.

      When I gamble for fun e.g. won RM 1,500 last time, wrote about it just last week I think, I usually win. :)

  2. omg hb. dun jump from ur condo k.
    kidding i noe u. good 2 see u r looking at the bright side.
    i noe wat it is. good luck n it will be a very x100 good exchange for rm12000.

    • Heh. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

      Yeah, come to think of it this forced poverty will make a better person out of me. Kill all the remaining bad habits and all. :)

      Cheers Diana! :D

  3. on the bright side, it could’ve been worse. people make mistakes, but not many learn from them. i just hope all turns out well for you soon, and that your close friend doesn’t let this incident ruin your friendship. take care.

    • Thanks mate!

      Nope, it’ll be fine on the friendship part, no worries. She’s a good friend, my best perhaps.

      Cheers mate, just need to weather this for a bit and I’ll be fine…hey, I’ll be better in fact. :)

    • Yeah, I’ve lost way more in the past, so this has just gotta be a final reminder.

      I actually haven’t stepped foot in a casino for a long time prior to the previous time.

      Good luck with the degree bro! :)

    • Thanks Ellis!

      That’s the most important thing. If you’re lying to yourself it’s the worst kind of lying ever.

      Denial and all that with regards to substance use for instance. I got through that. There are a lot of other stuff that regular people do to themselves e.g. lie to themselves and I feel that is the worst type of lie coz when you fool yourself there’s no bigger fool.

      Cheers for the vote of confidence! :)

    • Thanks Sam! :)

      Yeah, everything a person does has consequences, I guess the reason I’m so blase about a lot of things is coz everyone’s tolerance is different.

    • Rich? Far from it man, I’m super broke now.

      I ate a RM 1.90 bread roll for dinner and coffee.

      I think that’s going to be my diet for the next few months. Instant noodles too.

  4. A very expensive RM12k lesson but its all worth it IF you have really really quit gambling. I learnt that we could not be a millionaire or too greedy when comes to gambling in casino. If no luck and lost some money must be able to stand up and walk away without having the greed to earn back the initial sum. Casino are getting bigger and richer bcos they know human are greedy. If today you can quit drug, definitely you can quit gambling! Gambatek !

    • Well, you can never take the house if you play for too long.

      I’m an agent of chaos, I bet large sums and unpredictably and stay inside the casino as short as I need to.

      It’s the only way to get reasonable odds, coz if you play conservatively and long, the odds goes towards the house, not you.

      Thanks for the vote of confidence! :)

    • Haha! Yup, that’s keeping things in perspective.

      It could have been a RM 61,000 win too, not “could have” as usually used but “would have” if I had placed my multiple chips faster. :)

      Cheers Suan! :D

  5. People don’t change because they want to, they change because they NEED TO. My dear HB, while I enjoy reading your endeavours immensely, this is not a I NEED TO CHANGE predicament. Do prove me wrong.

    • Hmm…I have to disagree mate. I can and have changed coz I *want* to, not coz I *need* to. :)

      I know other people who have done the same – usually smoking, it’s a want to change, not a need to.

      Yup, that’s what I decided in the silver lining bit.

      Thanks for reading mate! Cheers! :D

  6. Sorry to hear about your losses. It’s very easy to loose track while gambling. Maybe you should seek help like Gamblers anonymous or something. It will be difficult to do it on your own. But to all who reads this, why is that whenever there is losses occured during gambling, we hear it loud and clear but when there is big winnings, nothing is hear of it! Think about that! Good luck to you in your rehabilitation.

    • I never lose track while gambling. It’s not that hard coz I don’t gamble like other people.

      I just go in and bet large sums in a single hand and get out again.

      It’s the only way to take the house, the longer you stay, the lower your odds are of walking out a winner. :)

      I don’t believe in AA/NA/GA – I used to be an alcoholic – drank about 750 ml of liquor neat from the bottle per day on average. Bill says that abstinence is the only way.

      I totally disagree. I went from an alcoholic to a very casual drinker. I hardly drink and don’t feel the urge to, it’s social situations only. I believe in moderation after you’ve gotten the problem under control. It wasn’t hard for me at all.

      Hmm…I don’t think that last bit is true, at least not for me. I write about my winnings too, usually with tons of gloating. ;)

      Thanks Kash! :D

      • Bro, you have all the experience with gambling and all that but correct me if I’m wrong to say this, ”The House Always Wins”. Whatever you have said, regarding stopping gambling etc, it is good and hope you stick by your words because you have said it out here, on the internet,lol. And you have typed the word ” Moderation”, which is and always should be the key to your gambling, drinking, etc.

        Where I live, there is no big casinos but a lot of betting shops but I never go into any of them. Anyway, the very best of luck.

    • No worries! :)

      Nothing to be sorry about, it could have gone either way. I could have won RM 2,000, RM 61,000 or RM 35,000 (this last bit is a damn good story too – I had only RM 1,000 and the table was all 4 and 8. I put it on 4, it came out 8).

      It’s consequences, I suddenly remember this guy who lost RM 100 and was complaining the entire night about it. Me and my friends were puzzled coz it’s just RM 100 and if he couldn’t take the loss, why did he gamble in the first place? Did he just expect to win every single time?

      I find a lot of people are like that. I don’t complain, I try to find the silver lining. :D

      Thanks for caring though Constance! It’s much appreciated. <3

  7. i always hear these words from gambler…”if, should have, would have”. theres no point saying it because whatever done is done.

    12 player win streak is consider very high risk zone already, i don’t understand why you still bet high when you’re not supposed to. when the player streak ended then only you should bet the rm5,000.

    seriously i’ve been there done that too, i saw your pattern really same like me, i also wanted to reach rm10,000 win last time but when i reach rm9,500 i still not willing to stop, in the end i lose it all. i believe it is a kind of curse don’t you think so? genting fengshui doing its work.

    you know what lesson you should learn from all this? just stick to the god dam roulette and dont ever touch baccarat no more LOL i dunno if you realize it but you always win money on other game but always lose all of it on baccarat. your concept of playing short and bet big was correct, but do you know that way of playing is for high rollers who got nothing to lose? the reason why you are still writing casino losing money post not because you hand itchy go gamble, because you still using the same betting strategy.

    • Heh! I win on Baccarat too e.g. the third save, I was playing baccarat exclusively.

      I never used to play Roulette – it was always Baccarat for me. I remember just playing for a few minutes and getting a RM 10,000 cheque the first day and a RM 9,000 one the next day when I stayed overnight. I had RM 19,000 in cheques from Genting just from playing Baccarat and a couple of hands only.

      …and actually, the high rollers spend a lot of time gambling. I don’t.

      I just play as fast as I can with big bets each hand coz that pushes your probability of winning up and makes it pure luck. The longer you stay inside, the more the odds goes against you and the house will take you.

      Cheers mate! :)

      • lol beginners luck ma, that must be old grandmother story already. up until now i calculate ur nett lost i think at least rm80,000+ already u know? actually we are very similar, i only play baccarat as well because it is the game my best friend taught me when i first step foot in casino. my early win was rm27,000…imagine that. but now my nett lost is at least rm35k over the years. the first time i play casino war i only buy in a rm500 chip but end up going hope with rm8k. its always a curse, they first lure u in with a win, then u will see your money starts going to them. take my advice my friend, earn as much as you can, and one day, go back there and take back what you lost…with one hand rm100k per bet. im doing the same thing now :) didnt go there for quite some time but every now and then i go there and play small and i still win, last time i play big, rm4000 per hand. and lose it easily, by playing small i get constant win. weird right? LOL

  8. Takes cojones to make a big play like that. Win lose, lose some, c’est la vie. We all live vicariously through your adventures.

    • You know, after a while you get totally desensitized to the amount of money you’re putting on the line. You don’t even get nervous about huge bets.

      …and that’s a really bad thing.

      Well, I’m glad you enjoyed reading it. Cheers bro! :)

    • Thanks for the offer Lynn, I might just take you up on it. :D

      Roti canai sounds good.

      Oh well, you win some, you lose some. Usually losing more than winning. ;)

  9. Being the stingy me, I only play at tables that allow bets lesser than RM50 and I never bet more than RM150. I can’t afford to lose so much!

    Instead of cooking instant noodle, cook your own rice. It’s still cheaper than eating outside :)

    • Well, I was aiming for a RM 2,000 win for my own reasons and that’s why it turned out this way. :x

      …if I didn’t have a hard target, I’ll just walk away after losing a bit and I’ll have been more careful about placing my bets, I wouldn’t have bet so much each hand. :)

      Thanks Charmaine! :D

  10. Oh HB, what were u thinking? I like your reasoning and the ‘take responsibility’ attitude – so mature! Cream crackers, bread, rice, loads of coffee n instant noodles, bananas, tofu – all these are the cheap but filling food that u can survive on. i should know – i fed a family of 5 on rm 300 a month – when i had to pay income tax fine and got my salary cut to settle it all. What doesn’t kill you will make you stronger, HB. Good luck!

    • I wasn’t thinking. :x

      Yeah, cream crackers! Why didn’t I think of that. Thanks for the tip Kate! :D

      It’s a good thing I have enough coffee at home for months.

      Wow, feeding a family of 5 with just RM 300, that’s quite impressive.

      Sorry to hear about that though, glad you got through it okay.

      I totally agree, what doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger. Cheers Kate and take care. :)

  11. With RM12K you can:
    1. Buy your fake PhD from any dubious university particularly from those Pacific, French polynesian countries (Dr.Poh, hello sir)
    2. Buy 2 bottles of Remy Martin cognac that Louis king name or something (RM6K duty free each)
    3. A used 1998 Perodua Kancil 850EZ automatic
    4. Pay half of fake PhD from some Hawaii universities (RM25K total price sir, Dr. Poh)
    5. Get new hot chick bride by mail from Vietnam (make sure her name is Ms.Elly Trahn…)

    So how you can forget that RM12K loss:
    1. Buy and play Battlefield 3
    2. Buy and play COD Modern Warfare 2
    3. Buy and watch DVD Jim Carrey movie Liar Liar
    4. Subscribe to Astro HD watch UFC 146 rerun…look at Cain Velasquez smashing Bigfoot Silva’s head bloodiest MMA match ever
    5. Buy some Coke, red wine, Woods cough syrup mix well. Drink hot or cold it’s ok. Next morning you’ll wake up as a virgin and fresh!

    • Heh! Good advice from the doctor himself. :)

      I’m watching Game of Thrones and playing a lot of Infinity Blade II.

      Hmm…why Woods cough syrup? It doesn’t contain anything interesting, no opiates, DXM, pseudoephedrine or even just antihistamines inside.

      Thanks for the encouragement though bro. Much appreciated! :D

    • I usually do, but I had a goal this time.

      It’s a really bad thing, I’ve always noticed that when I have a target in mind, I always end up losing coz I have to meet the target win amount of money.

      However, if I’m playing for fun, I usually win. Oh well. :)

  12. Wow, that’s a lot to lose! But well, it serves as an experience and it’s nice to have you sharing on your blog.
    I’ve been to the casino in Genting several times, but always end up watching others gamble.
    I thought of just gambling RM50, just for fun but I still didn’t. :P

    • I’ve lost even more in the past – RM 50,000 and RM 35,000 losses were not uncommon. I also had a rather long winning streak that ended with RM 19,000 over two days and consistent 4 figure wins each time I went up.

      Yeah, this is an experience I won’t forget soon since I told myself not to bet large amounts when I lost a lot last time.

      Oh well. Thanks for reading bro! :)

  13. I am sorry to hear it ..

    But do not worry because it’s not just you alone who have experienced it, I also used to play gambling in Genting and last I visited Malaysia in 2010. I quit gambling since then, when I lost RM 20,000 on the last visit.
    Although more losing than winning, it does not make me stop gambling. As at this moment I have a strong desire to return to play Baccarat in Genting, I am looking for information on Google and I found your blog by a variety of gambling experience in it.
    I miss the Genting weather and the heart beats of casino there .. Hopefully one day we may play together on the Genting, and even we can be together forever quit gambling .. : D

    • Yeah, I know what you mean – I have lost huge amounts (RM 50,000 and RM 35,000 being the ones I remember the most) and won some too (RM 19,000 winning cheque from Genting pops into mind).

      Well, one day at a time, it’s like me quitting drugs, if you have a strong desire to do it, then make yourself wait a minute, then tell yourself an hour, then a day etc. It worked for me. :)

      Yup, that sounds good mate, we’ll go up to Genting, practice maneuvers on the skydiving simulator and just have fun without going to the casino. :)

  14. Hi, if you have the the capital RM12,000..you should try my method betting 30numbers/37.
    I just won 10 times in a row this morning worth RM15,000 in just 2 hours.

    Sorry for your lose.

    • Hey, congrats for your win bro! :)

      I’ve thought about doing that but since the numbers were all around 1-12 I bet on those numbers and even payout, lines and so on.

      I should have tried the 30 numbers betting system. I’m pretty sure I would have won and if I use RM 100, it’ll be a RM 3,000 bet per spin and I’ll just need to get 4 wins to achieve my target.

      I just realized that you can get about a very high chance of winning if you bet on TWO “dozen bets” e.g. 2-1 payouts e.g. put RM 2,000 on 1-12 and RM 2,000 on 13-24.

      Thus, you have a 2/3 chance of winning and you’ll take a hit from the losing dozen, but you’ll cover your loss and get RM 2,000, This works with column bets as well, anything that pays 2-1 and has 3 possible outcomes.

      However, if it hits the house number 0 or the 1/3 dozen/column you didn’t bet on, you’ll lose the entire buy-in. This is about 70% of winning without having to put chips on every number.

      However, the advantage of your system is that it has a higher probability and you can cover the house number 0.

      Congrats again on your RM 15,000 win bro. :)

  15. OMG that 2nd near save. OMFG. I think I would have raged and went berserk if that happened to me. Them bouncers would be hauling my ass out in no time.

    • Well, you know how some people put it last minute e.g. when the Roulette wheel is spun and the ball dropped then they place their bets?

      I do that for “emotional” e.g. illogical bets, ones that doesn’t follow the trend. Only in Roulette though, I’m usually the first to put the chips down in Baccarat. :)

    • Yeah, nearly being the key word. :x

      I wouldn’t have minded winning 61k at all. :)

      Yup, lesson learned and this time ingrained.

      Thanks for the support Evelyn! :D

  16. HB , your tried your way. Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. Dont worry, you still will get back to your feet and you will not yet be fear of gambling.This is what i have went thru last 10 years. There is no could or should in casino.Things happen for reasons in life. Either win or lose that’s all

    • Yup, I totally agree bro. :)

      I’m with your line of reasoning too – don’t believe in NA/AA/GA “total abstinence” since I used to be an alcoholic and I can still drink occasionally on a social basis.

      Bill of AA says total abstinence is the only way. I disagree.

      e.g. on the alcohol bit, I don’t even drink that much nowadays. I just don’t feel the urge.

      There’s an open bottle of wine in the fridge for months that my friend has been drinking when she drops by coz I don’t want to drink it. You’ll never find any open containers of alcohol back when I was drinking heavily. ;)

  17. Really, Huai Bin, you’ll have to be careful with gambling as it’s addicting and it’s a habit that is costly to maintain but since you’ve mentioned that you’ll no longer step into a casino, that’s great news! At least you’ve realized it now before it’s too late.

    Sorry for spreading salt over your raw wounds, but I hope you’ve learnt your lesson. Try to throw yourself into your work; it’ll help you to overcome your 12k loss, I hope. =)

    • Hey there Ciana! :)

      Yes, I know, I haven’t been there in a while since my previous time and I doubt I’ll step foot in a casino again anytime soon.

      I can go and have fun in Genting without going into the casino. :D

      No worries mate, I don’t listen to a lot of what other people say e.g. the “prove it to me” people since I don’t see the need to prove anything to anyone except myself.

      You’re a different kettle of fish altogether. I respect you and you’re not rubbing salt over my wounds at all.

      Thank you for the positive encouragement. I’ll be alright my friend.

      Cheers for the support! :)

  18. Degenerate!! Hope you can quit throwing your money away.

    Gambling stimulates the same brain chemistry as amphetamines as you know, so you can for sure kick this!!

    GOOOOOD LUCK AWAY FROM THE TABLES!!!!

    • Dopamine?

      …it’s not just gambling mate, lots of stuff releases those neurotransmitters, like coffee. :)

      I’m not addicted (not in denial either), haven’t been to the casino for a year since the previous time.

      Thanks for the well wishes mate. :D

    • Yeah, I know! :x

      The last time I won RM 1,500.

      This time I lost nearly 10x that amount. Oh well.

      Next time I’ll just go to Genting for fun.

      Sorry Eiling. :(

    • My dad? I haven’t asked him for anything since college.

      I sure would like your dad if he does that. ;)

      I never even asked him to bail me out when I was in jail. I got out of it myself.

      My principles are – if you get yourself into it, get yourself out of it. :D

  19. never disappoint xinxian!

    on a more serious note, glad that this could serve as a learning experience and be the final straw that gets you over this addiction

  20. Either this story is fake or u are a real dumbass. U deserve to lose. Hahaha. 30+ and penniless. What a loser. I visited ur site to see what other dumbass stuff u did and u really made it. Hahaha.

    • Dude, jealousy is unbecoming of you. :)

      I have to take off my hat though, you seem to know a lot about me, including my bank balance.

      Unfortunately, you’re wrong on all counts. Except the age thing.

      …and maybe the dumbass bit. Haha.

      • Honestly dumbass HB, I am neither jealous nor bitter bout ur sorry loser ass. The fact is 30+, driving a beat up old vios and staying in a rented crap apartment in mudland and skimping on meals cos u lose a couple of thousand ringgit, that’s called POVERTY…hahaha. Blogging for some pittance with “muff”nang makes ur life all that exciting and enviable eh? Hahaha. Keep on entertaining me with ur dumbass shenanigans. One word, loser.

    • I have the same theory too!

      The people who are jealous and bitter are the ones who’s never done anything significant or have had interesting experiences before. They live life vicariously through others but ultimately it makes them even more bitter.

      I on the other hand would have happily said I have lived an interesting and colorful life on my deathbed. :D

      Thanks bro. :)

    • Yeah, it wasn’t the croupier’s fault, I was putting a lot of bets on a lot of numbers and that was the last one. He wouldn’t have known where the ball would fall although I hear experienced dealers would know approximately where it would end up. :)

      Well, I wouldn’t mind if the client is you. I’ll probably do it for free. ;)

    • Well, that’s how much I usually bet and you need to bet like that for a decent chance against the house. It’s always 50:50.

      I’ll either win or lose but if I stay long and bet small amounts I will definitely lose.

      This way, I maximize my winning chances. :)

  21. Of all the bitter news . I dont believe that gambler will always be on the losing side. Ive heard stories where some prefessional gambler group up to win from casinos to casinos around the world. They are high rollers no doubt. And they are super smart gamblers. They select weak dealer ( usually blackjack/pontoon) to play . Hit high bet after bet until dealer gain strength. Then they stop and leave the table with their winnings. Be an opportunist and not a sole gambler. After all chopsticks are harder to break in bundle.

  22. Kia Ora *sigh* walau mate? and here we go again… I have many many theories as to why history (your history to be precise) is repeating itself. One theory is that you seem to ‘glorify’ your winnings AS WELL AS your loses. Hence you have absolutely no problems walking into the casino again…. and again and again…

  23. I’m pulling for ya man. : ) The flavours and textures of poverty are very familiar to me:
    Eating pure refined sugar out of the bag off the blade of a bowie knife.
    Eating old Salsa on saltines.
    The immeasurable joy of discoving half a bag of old oven chips in the very bottom of the freezer under your ex’s unidentifiable leftovers.
    Pertpetual fatigue.
    “Hustler eyes” or “Prison Eyes”, eyes that scan the ground around you and before you for anything worth grabbing.
    Trepidation as you look at a whole boiled beet on the end of a fork. Quite apart from how old it might be…
    But, I was remembering that this was the cost, so everything is as it should be.

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