It has been x days since you’ve slept and eaten. You’ve either
exhausted your supply of meth or your tolerance is getting so high,
you’ve decided to reserve the remainder of the stash for another day.
You’re jumping at shadows, constantly looking behind your shoulder at
non-existent people who’re out to get you, startled at sudden noises,
and a friend tapping your shoulder is likely to make you jump out of
your skin. The good effects of meth is over, but sleep is still
impossible. What happens now?
1. Do you have a benzodiazepine (Valium, Xanax, Klonopin etc)?
Yes. Go to 2.
No. Can’t help you much. If you have weed, smoke some to help you eat, otherwise force yourself to eat and drink yourself to sleep.
2. Do you have alcohol?
Yes. Go to 3.
No. Take more benzos and go to 3.
3. Do you have cannabis (weed, grass, pot)?
Yes. Go to 4.
No. Take the benzos and alcohol. Try to force yourself to eat and go to sleep.
4. You’re set for the perfect comedown!
My personal preference for a comedown benzodiazepine is clonazepam
(Klonopin). This is due to its relatively long duration and the anticonvulsant
[rxlist.com] properties. The first one will ensure that you won’t
suddenly wake up in the middle of the night and will help you stay
sedated for quite a long time. The second one is very nice
after long meth runs, due to the muscle aches and other associated
problems. I noticed that it’ll also relax your muscles very noticeably,
which is conducive for relaxation and sleep. 🙂
The only issue related to clonazepam is the long time it takes to
kick in (for some people). It can take 1-2 hours, but personally, I’ve
never noticed that it takes that long! Don’t worry about it if
you just came off a meth run, chances are, you’ve not eaten anything,
so your stomach will be so empty that absorption happens really
quickly! Personally, it only takes 15-30 minutes max for it to kick in
after meth runs. I do not like Valium (diazepam) because it has an
active metabolite that stays in you for quite a long time. Xanax
(alprazolam) has a short half life (read the part about waking up in
the middle of the night). However, feel free to pick and mix benzos if
the situation warrants it. =D Please know the benzodiazepine
equivalency dosages before mixing! I recommend taking a higher dose of
the long lasting benzos and a lower dose of the short acting benzos.
I’ve taken 2 mg Xanax + 10 mg Valium + 3 mg Klonopin combos to put me
into slumber land within minutes. Heh.
Optional: Multivitamin and mineral supplement.
Here’s what I usually do:
Cook some food if you need to. You’ll be really tired after your run so
I recommend something easy like ramen, but it’ll be best to have
something pre-cooked (like a take away rice box) in the fridge which
you can just reheat in the microwave.
Wash your bong and fill it with water. Shred an amount of weed you want
to smoke. Load the cone with one hit to be ready. Put lighter beside
1. Take benzodiazepines (personally, I take 4 mg clonazepam – change the dosage according to personal tolerance) with water.
2. Take a shower. By the time you’re done the clonazepam (or your benzo of choice) should have taken effect.
3. Start drinking beer. I don’t recommend liquor because it’s easy to
drink too much and end up with a hangover. Also, be careful when
combining alcohol and benzodiazepines. My personal limit is to never
exceed a 6-pack, but YMMV.
4. Cook your food or even better, reheat your pre-cooked meal. It’s
worthy to mention that during your meth run, your body has gone into
starvation mode from not being fed anything except water. Thus,
anything you eat after will
be put into your fat stores in anticipation of the next starvation
period. This is not an issue if you do meth very often, but it might be
of interest to people who are conscious of their weight. I recommend
taking one meal that is the usual size of what you normally eat for a
meal, don’t exceed that and you’ll be fine.
5. Put on a no-brainer stoner type movie or TV series. Just anything
that you don’t need to think about that’s easy to watch and you don’t
mind watching halfway. I recommend short TV episodes like South Park.
6. Smoke cannabis. Fast. 😉 There should be no meth related paranoia
present due to the wonderful benzodiazepines you’ve consumed.
7. Eat your food before it gets cold. 🙂 (Optional: If you have a
multivitamin supplement, take it when you’re 1/4 into your food. It
gets absorbed better with food.)
8. You should be very ready to sleep by the time you’re done eating. =D
Sweet, sweet comedowns. You’ll probably be bumping into stuff and
all that while having a sleepy, contented smile on your face. It is
possible to wake up 8 hours later, but that’s not the best way to
recover. I’ll allocate at least 12 hours for sleeping on this one.
You’ll be feeling fine again the next day, ready to tweak again (hmm…)
or even better, make sure that the next day is free so you can just
relax around and drink some beer (not till you get a hangover) and
sleep again for a perfect recovery when you wake up again! 🙂
This is based on personal experience and thus, it may not be a good idea for everyone.
Combining benzodiazepines and alcohol in large amounts can be dangerous
and possibly fatal! Know your limits and don’t exceed it!
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Thanks so much for this info. It helped me a lot during my meth-induced panic attacks! :))
Now I know exactly what to do after a long binge. After applying some of the stated above, I can say that it really eased up my comedowns and minimized my meth-induced anxiety and panic attacks.
A word of caution to the newbies… This is based on my personal experience and probably applicable to those with anxiety and panic disorders like me… ( i’m a male, 22 yrs old, 177cm. and 74 kg. asian-hispanic)
After a long meth binge(for me max is 4 days), your body is literally tired, starved and muscle aches all over. Your brain is exhausted and delirious, for people with anxiety, depression and/or panic disorders, these sensations will trigger a panic attack ( like you are having a heart attack and/or stroke). My first encounter with meth-induced panic attack was just 4 months after I started doing binges and I’m telling you, IT’S NOT VERY PRETTY. Like, I thought I was having a heart attack and my whole body goes numb and I thought I was gonna die.
So… Just a word of caution to those people like me,, After a meth binge, NEVER, I say again… NEVER!!! Combine liquor or red/white/champagne with Diazepam(VALIUM).. This will calm you down and what not but after sleeping like an hour or two, you will wake up from your sleep, shaking and have the worst panic attack you can ever imagine..
Like seriously, I’ve been there and I saw what it is.. Some of you might even cry and call your mom to bring you to the hospital coz you thought you were gonna die on that moment, like I was the first time..
After experimenting on myself (smoking adulterated meth and going on a binge for a couple of days), I found out that I got rid of my meth-induced panic attacks by using this come-down method…..
Personally, after a 4 day meth binge (smoking meth usually adulterated with god knows what) no sleep, no eat, no whatsoever.. Just WATER.. When you come down from this, you just drink BEER and you should take Clonazepam(Klonopin). As for me, I can finish 8 cans of your regular beer combined with Clonazepam ( Klonopin) and have no hangover, anxiety/panic attack the next what so ever..
NOTE: Every person metabolizes substances and alcohol differently… My post is just for informational purposes and you are not required to follow..
If you are like me, then you are very much welcome to try what I wrote down.. If not, I say good luck, bro! 😀
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Forcing yourself to go to sleep is such a waste of a good tweek! It took countless days to get to that point and if you can handle it I think it’s the funnest part of the high. I would usually stay up 24 more hours after I decided I was gonna take a break! All I ever needed was to eat good meal and i would badly make it to my bed!
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What if I don’t have any weed or clonazapam??? And I can’t stand beer. I’ve been up two days and I feel like crap!!!! I just want to sleep someone help me!!!!!!!
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Nice advice, but I would advise against the alcohol since it’s gonna dehydrate you more.
Also, remember that opiates can kill a come-down just as effectively as benzos, in case you have the former but not the latter.
Take four or five 3mg melatonin…all natural chemical ur body releases it wen u fall alseep w a zanny bar no beer needd somke a joint or to and repeat w the joint s as needd…melatonin takes about 1 hr to kick n even on empy stomach..metlatonin is great shit put u out cold
I think the clonazepam, beer, pot, food, shower tv remedy is the best.
Not everyone will be blessed to have benzos and weed, however.
These are some other medications that have been really helpful for ME. So just take this as education and nothing else :
1) Valerian Hot Tea (Sleepy Time Extra) – for the people who might be low on their benzo supply or who are too sensitive to prescription benzos, this is a god send. It’s really cheap at any grocery store. The active ingredient Valerian works on the Gaba receptors just like BZ but are closer to being ambien. Not only will Valerian help, but the whole ritual of making a couple hot mugs of Tea can help you wind down and get out of your head and into your bed. Plus it feels healthy, helping to halt feeling like a toxic waste dump.
Other meds that have helped to bring me down are mirtzapine, gabapentin, buprenorphine, soma, or if you’re out of beer, a glass of red wine shouldn’t hurt but don’t take it from me. The above medications were in no way intended to be taken all at the same time, but one can replace another. Use a internet resource with a drug interactions calculator such as drugs.com or medrx. If you are coming down from anything directly related to amphetamine, put adderall into the interaction calculator. If l meth is your poison then input Desoxyn instead. Be careful not to drink alcohol if you still have heavy amounts of speed in your blood as some medical sites named a rare couple of incidents where alcohol actually raised levels of desoxyn causing a cardotoxin resulting in fatal events.
This is a good reason to always check interactions as there is often a bigger picture when it comes to mixing medications such as different liver enzymes converting seemingly harmless meds into toxic ones.
Some of the greatest advice given by the gentleman who posted the original was to get a shower, and make sure to eat. This tells your body that you intend on taking care of it again so that it could use the little strength left in you to help repair the damage. Also you are going to feel like Crap until the dopamine and other essential depleted neurotransmitters return to near bassline levels. You need food and sleep for this to occur.
Last thing I want to leave you with – and I’m very hesitant to do so because I don’t want any of you to think I’m trying to sound better than. I am crashing right now actually so for what it’s worth : Have you ever wondered where all the tweakers are from the 50s and 60s? There isn’t many of them is there? That’s because if they didn’t die extremely young, the cops threw them into prisons to rot. It happened before and will again. When big Pharma sees it getting out of control and they start losing money on their add meds for the kids, and diet pills for the girls, they will irradicate us. The good news, we have each other and the Internet, and we can do our best to help one and other find ways out of this trap. Although it might seem fun when you’re in your twenties at a rave, please understand, there is not a positive thing that can come from being a tweaker in your 30s if you make it that far!
Ok I am done preaching, I just really don’t want you guys to see the horror I’ve seen. I made it out though. IT IS POSSIBLE!
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I have been a drug addict for over 35 years now. Must say Meth saved my life. Got me off of the Freebase Cocaine. I had three heart arrhythmia episodes smoking coke. One thing about the meth the end result is psychosis.. Its fun for a while. The come down can be lessened with the Benzo’s and a little beer. The appetite will come and a vitamin with the food is great. Get back out into life and exercise is a good idea.
The hardest part of staying off of meth is all the fun times and the great sex and just being able to say fuck the world for days on end. I have had many tough come downs and today I am choosing to take care of myself and get busy having fun and going camping and fishing, and driving my Corvette around. If you can do it wisely then my hat is off to ya. Me I have a tendency to experience things to the max, if you know what I mean. I think I am just gonna chill for a while and count my blessings……. Yaaaaaaa
Thank you for sharing mate!
Your inspiring words have inspired myself – have left the world of methamphetamine (ab)use after days of cold shake IVs sent me to the ER for kidney failure (600+ creatinine levels). The doctors thought I was going to die when the levels didn’t come down after the second day on emergency dialysis through my neck.
…and you know what, when I got discharged after 2 weeks, I went right back at it.
I have switched to opiates, heroin and Oxycontin mostly and one day decided to quit and got on Suboxone (buprenorphine + naloxone).
I’m glad you’re clean and reading your comment made me happy that people can get out. I do agree, exercise and the great outdoors, doing the things you love is what’s ultimately going to be best.
Take care buddy, whoever you are.
First time i came down was cold turky, second time was pretty bad. I quit for 4 years, cold turky. Did it again, in a very controled maner, (.2 lasted me 2 days) i found that when you are quiting for long periods, it has always helped me to concentrate on the glass, then smash it under foot. I know its a rough ride down, but a friend gave me some valium, so i figured i would try it. Its been 2 hours and i feel a hell of alot more at ease, and not sketchy. Only problem is i still cant sleep.
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I’m just coming down off some next level strong base/speed.. I only tend to do 3 nights on a binge never have a problem trying to sleep, I never try to thats what causes a bad come down. you start thinking about shit too much.. then before you know it your anxiety levels have just had a boost of the rocket fuel. I’ve always stuck to my own little methods to get me on my way. If you’re like me then being awake for 3 nights can provide you with something to kill a bit of time. Leave it about 7/8 hours after the final dabble and start on the cans of larger, never watch tv always keep to the music. If you time this right then the cans will go straight to the head cos you haven’t ate in 72 hours. If you start drinking them too early though, the tackle will just overpower the booze and you will drink about 3 times as much overall, probably end up on the super strengths… finally after enjoyin trippin balls for a couple of hours, when your feeling wobbly and giddy as hell, get a bacon sandwich on the go quickly to enjoy before the long rest. Works every time for me and I suffer with anxiety myself on a normal day.
My buddy’s personal preference is to hit the candy until satisfied. He will roll all night cleaning, drawing, writing music, watching movies, playing music on soundbar, playing games on computer, having drawn out texting conversations with people in the same circle.
Somewhere late into the night when he can feel it starting to gradually wear off(for him about 5:00-6:00am), he takes a Valium(amount depends on what works for each person.) He then starts to get drowsy, and it’s to the point he doesn’t remember any thoughts before passing out, not a bad thing.)
My buddy has access to a lot of medications and such. He must have lots of prescriptions? 🙂
Ahaha! Now he wakes up. Time to pay the piper, right? Not so much. He reaches over and grabs his bottle of lortabs. He takes however much it takes to reach euphoria. Having said that, he would suggest not taking lortabs every day routinely. You don’t want to build a tolerance to opiods.)
He then gets up and around doing his morning routine. At this point he doesn’t just go find the candy and start hitting again. It’s okay to be normal a little while. You’ll be just fine knowing that candy is coming at some point. Typically, at some point, he will have enough of an appetite to eat something. You should eat at this point even if you’re not all that hungry. Trying to force yourself to eat later can be a chore. My buddy has a slim body, so eating is essential to keeping himself from looking sick. This is why he chooses to eat something solid at this point. If you are a bigger person, you might eat something light like a packaged muffin. Drink water. Drink a bunch of water. If you hate water, get Gatorade or something. For God’s sake, my buddy wants your day to be a success. Being stubborn and going directly for the pop only, without water? Well, we are trying to prevent something here. If you continue to ingest the candy, do not drink much water, and do not eat a certain amount, most people he knows will feel light headed every time they stand up at a normal speed. Drinking lots of water and putting a certain amount of food into his body, pretty much prevents most if not all of the light headedness. People think the candy simply causes the light headedness. He believes not eating or being hydrated causes most of it. He has done tests on himself, and the results say hydrate and eat.
Now if you have a truely have a fast metabolism and fear getting too underweight, you can choose to not hit the candy yet. The longer you wait, the more you’ll get an appetite. Will you be starving? Probably not, but you can eat.
The moment of truth will arrive at some point. Find the candy and partake my friend. Enjoy that wonderful candyland experience. Bask in the pleasure of increased socialism, energy, excitement, comfort, performance, creativity, and fun.
Now remember, when you’ve decided to shut it down at the end of the night, take the Valium, and repeat what my buddy has shared with you.
Is my buddy an expert? No. Are most doctors “experts”? Not really. They give antidepressants to seriously depressed people like lab rats hopeing with fingers crossed that something works. They open up their book and hope someone else can give them the answer. Doctors are trained, and they only know what they are taught. No book is going to tell anyone how to “really” help themselves because it’s a liability. They give people conservative advice that won’t get them sued. The closest things to experts are people who have been in these situations personally, and have personally witnessed the results for themselves with their own bodies. Having said that, this advice is for people who have no serious health issues. My buddy has no serious health issues, so this is what works for him with HIS body. Know YOUR body, and be smart. If you know for certain that something on an advice column effects you poorly or you have personal knowledge on something, listen to your brain. If you are overweight, scheduling times to eat full meals like my buddy does, might not be the perfect “plan” for you. Perhaps you could eat light at least. We would need an overweight person to give advice on such a matter, not a skinny guy like my buddy.
Nevertheless, perhaps this was informative and can help someone who has access to these products: the “Candy” itself, Valium, Lortabs, and more candy, valium, lortabs… 😀
Everyone’s body is different. This advice works for the people my buddy knows. He is no doctor, he is not licensed, he is not a medical scientist. He has no credentials on paper. His only “credentials” are years of practicing this routine for many years with no problems personally, and the same with numerous friends and acquaintances. He has not witnessed or been told of any of them having a negative issue with this.
My buddy does care about you and your safety. The candy can be great, but keep your head in the game. If it controls you to the point that YOU are not in control, your life has hit rock bottom, and it has become destructive to you, for God’s sake, put the candy down long enough to get your life back together. Let it enhance your life, not destroy it. You can lay off long enough to pass a drug screen, get a job or get in a situation where your needs are met. Let your body come back down and feel normal. When its effects have worn off, seek a situation where your needs are met. Then, decide if its use can work for you now that you are safe.
Everyone, be safe, take care of yourselves, and watch out for each other.
Thank you for sharing your…buddy’s experience. Kindly convey my regards to him. I hope your buddy is respecting the substance too coz this was written over 12 years ago and in the meantime I have hit rock bottom several times, went to 3 rehab centers, went to jail and prison and finally came back up again.
I also used opiates the next day to avoid paying the price for my indulgences. This does work but IMHO you’ll reach a crosspoint where one of the two (methamphetamine or opiates) becomes more important and from experience the latter has a stronger pull since it has a physical component to the withdrawals.
I was using methamphetamine for 3-7 days while holding down a good job, crashing for 1-2 days, using lots of benzodiazepines – Valium (diazepam), Rivotril (clonazepam), Xanax (alprazolam) and Dormicum (midazolam) were the most common ones with a bit of alcohol and weed to sleep.
The next day I’ll pop several DF118 (dihydrocodeine) pills – maybe 7 or so (each pill is 30 mg) for a 210 mg nice floating feeling to get back to work. I didn’t pay the price of the meth binge (or so I thought). I graduated to OxyContin coz it was stronger and then got hooked on methamphetamine and oxycodone.
Eventually, I damaged my kidneys by shooting up methamphetamine without filtering (used the cold shake method, just dumped the meth into the syringe body and drew in water and shook until it all dissolved) but I still used methamphetamine until one day I decided I liked opiates better.
…and then I used opiates for a long time, went to rehab for it (3 times) and finally got on a Suboxone program. I was back under control but there was a long time when I was very destructive.
Not many people can pull off recreational drug use when you’re playing with stuff like this. Take care of yourself mate and be safe.
Great article. I’d like to share some of my experiences with coming down from meth.
1. Alcohol & weed- if you can ride it out for a good few hours (at least 6-10) this is one of my favorites. Hit up a local bar with some live music on, get yourself a seat between the bar and the music & RELAX ! Get up and have a bit of a dance if you must & make sure you have some of your favorite liquor on hand. Smash down a few beverages & head home & smoke some MJ. You’ll sleep for a good few hours & will wake up feeling reasonably fresh if you don’t overdo the alcohol.
2. ALCOHOL- I’ll admit, it’s my go to for any comedown. I YOU ARE HAVING CHEST PAINS/RAPID HEART RATE/IRREGULAR HEARTBEAT DO NOT DO THIS *I REPEAT* DO NOT DO THIS IF THAT IS THE CASE. If however you feel reasonably fine- knock down the drinks until you pass out. Beer & wine will knock you out quickest but if you like your spirits by all means drink to your hearts content. You MAY wake up feeling like a bag of smashed assholes but you will get some well deserved sleep…
3. Seroquel/quetiapine- as I last suggested do not do this if you have heart/cholesterol/blood sugar or any sort of medical issue that requires a doctors attention. IF YOU DO TRY THIS – EXPECT TO SLEEP FOR HOURS. 50-100mg of seroquel will block your dopamine receptors and sedate you. IF it does NOT sedate you, chances are you will feel quiet hungry eventually & just want to chill. For myself this is the BEST method however I am prescribed this medication for mental health and sedation.
4. Panadene forte and phernergan- this is a great combo for any upper comedown however it only works to its full potential IF you don’t truly struggle with sleep after consuming stimulants. It will take away any headaches/body aches (in my experience) & give you a decent few hours sleep.
Just a note: I am only sharing from personal experiences. Meth is a pretty hard drug & you shouldn’t reaaaaallly touch it if you can’t deal with the comedown. Keep yourself hydrated on this shit & please take my suggestions with your own discretion. AVOID MIXING BENZOS WITH ALCOHOL IF YOU CAN. IF YOU TAKE ANTIPSYCHOTIC MEDICATION (seroquel, lithium, olanzepine, Thorazine etc) & consume alcohol take extra care. It MAY help you comedown but it MAY lead to further destructive behaviors…tweak safe guys !
I agree that opioids will help a lot – at least the more sedating ones like codeine (Panadeine Forte as you mentioned) but be careful of mixing Panadeine Forte with alcohol as it contains paracetamol (APAP) and will cause you a lot of liver problems if not outright death if not done right.
Alcohol + APAP (paracetamol) = bad, unless you’re sure you’re not taking a large amount of either. Paralgin Forte (a similar preparation we have) contains up to 400 mg paracetamol per tab, and if you take 30 tabs, the overdose potential on APAP alone is pretty serious stuff.
I would suggest morphine, if you can get it, or OxyContin (oxycodone) for a less sedating but more fun comedown, it helps with general aches of the body AND mind. 😉
I wrote this when I had a benzodiazepine prescription and I still have it for three – clonazepam (Rivotril), diazepam (Valium) and alprazolam (Xanax) and I’ve read a lot of articles which suggest that taking benzos with alcohol is a big no no.
However, I have been through periods of alcoholism (2004-2010) while taking massive amounts of benzodiazepines and I’m still alive.
Take that with a pinch of salt though, at one point I was abusing Paralgin Forte (30 mg codeine with 400 mg APAP/paracetamol) without doing a CWE (cold water extraction) just popping them 30 pills at a time, daily for about 2 years.
I suspect I have damaged my liver at the time and I can’t smell or see paracetamol now without throwing up.
Methamphetamine is serious stuff, it can lead you to dark and ugly places. I was addicted 2003-2007 and it took a lot of stuff (3 drug rehabs, 2 encounters with police, 2 jail/prison terms) before I got off it and to this day I still can’t remember how I got off meth though I suspect I switched to opiates instead coz after my meth days I was heavily addicted to methadone, OxyContin and other opiates.
I then took buprenorphine (Suboxone – government program) to kick the opiate habit.
Be careful with this guys, of course your experience might be different to mine and vice versa but of all the people I’ve seen on meth (and I’ve seen a lot coz I was dealing at one point) none of them had happy endings, except me and a handful others I know who got out alive and (relatively) unscathed. I personally have renal problems from shooting up methamphetamine (went through an emergency dialysis through my neck, which was interesting), criminal records for possession and use, and probable brain damage which I would only know when I’m much older. I’m 35 now and I still count myself among the lucky ones.